Butt Rock Ken

Wells and Fences

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Another essential truth the centered set image describes is that we all exist in varying states of intimacy with the Lord--and in meaningful relational proximity to each other--and the fences are illusory and arbitrary markers that say little about that actual intimacy. That is, the irregular, gerrymandered perimeters they describe may mean some who are "outside the fence" are close and some who are "inside" are, in fact, far away.

The fences are real, in a sense, but they truly only demarcate and impede for those who acknowledge them. Illusory fences are no barrier to those who aren't under the illusion.

I guess I think it's important because we all (yes, even those who are not-yet-Christians) imagine and construct these fences and I'm not sure that we can completely ignore them. In one sense it could be that that is precisely the goal, but perhaps we have to recognize that we're seeing an imaginary wall before we walk through it (or we have to recognize and even acknowledge our brother's imaginary wall before we can help him walk through it).

On the other hand, maybe we just need to realize "that it is not the spoon that bends, it is only [ourselves]."

Maybe I'm making too much of the fence metaphor but I feel that it can yield a lot of fruit.
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Just wondering when I actually last felt that I was in an oasis with plenty of fresh clean water... I reach out and keep coming back with this tepid clorinated stuff. ARGH!

Wow! You really have the ability to say a lot with only a few words. I'll attempt to reply to a couple things:

... the irregular, gerrymandered perimeters they describe may mean some who are "outside the fence" are close and some who are "inside" are, in fact, far away.

That was part of what I was trying to say in my "Wheat and Weeds" post. There are many "inside" the church who are consumed with materialism, greed, bitterness, lust, and a whole host of other sins. There are also many "outside" the church who are working for justice, against poverty, and basically live the good life Jesus talks about in his account of the sheep and the goats.

On the other hand, maybe we just need to realize "that it is not the spoon that bends, it is only [ourselves]."
Absolutely! One of the things that wevre learned from the fall of modernity is that objective truth is extremely difficult for humanity to grasp. Even scientific truths are subject to the scientist's point of view. God's truth never changes, but humans' apprehension of it does.
Yeah, that sounds really frustrating. I've certainly been there. I feel extremely lucky to be a part of the church I am. As a church, we're not what we should be, but the leadership is readily admitting that and working to change what needs to be changed and move forward into whatever God has for us. I also get my "water" from other sources like reading books and listening to lectures, but I'm pretty introverted.

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